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Journal Entry: Sun Apr 13, 2014, 1:41 PM


Many comments have been made, many people have hauled off and jumped and are now wondering what is really going on, many tears have been cried (at least by me cuz y'all--y'all are mean. Enough said about that, it doesn't matter. I wish everyone all of the best and more.

I would like to take a few minutes to say two things:
1) Many have come through DLD and been better in this literature community for it. Dedication and hard work helped forward their already progressing talent. Not me, not Will, not Lili or any other running administrator--just dedication and hard work. We have present and former hats, badges and most of all the owners of coveted Daily Deviations; all have come through here and I am damn proud to have been a part of the sacred space they passed through. I'm sure the sentiment is shared by many, many others.
2) I've been checking on this account for the last two years and have not seen any real growth that directly effects the literature community in a positive way. DLD has been doing the same things--rote, yes contributing to the success and exposure of unknown literature (though many of the same people seem to get recurring DLDs including staff members which has ALWAYS been a big no-no in my book) but not furthering its place in the community. No regular and new/exciting contests, no excellent forum management, no group oriented projects to contribute any number of things to the community, no outpouring of support for ongoing projects like FFM, Not-For-Sale, NaPo/NaNo, etc and so on, hell--no daily answering of fricking messages... there were one thousand nine hundred and sixty-two messages in the inbox when I came in to take down an article the other night. Basically admin has been enjoying the benefits of DLD rank and not running the account in the way I and others (especially Lili) worked so hard to lay out. Admin isn't just the fun of suggestions and the hardest of work when you get none and the recognition for being a part of something special--admin is every nook and cranny plus room to grow and give more to the lit community on dA.

That was my plan, that's what I spent near 24/7 doing for more than two years until we finally had a team that could function as a unit. This is all my fault though. MINE. I, in 2 years, have not had the wherewithal to step in and correct the errors, support the running admins as a team player and set it all to rights. My life interfered. My plan to close began to itch at the edges of my mind. DLD became stale and I did nothing but make an executive decision that pissed my most trusted admin off and got bent. Then I hastily--should have stuck with my gut instinct and just took that down and left it alone--posted the history. But no--I told the story as it had been told to me and announced the closing all in one breath. I apologize. There was a better path and I missed it. I only hope to be forgiven by those that seem to be hurt.

More later on how to leave the account sitting so the exposure for all in the past is still there and then there's the issue of points...

“We have art lest we perish of the truth.” –Nietzsche

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LeftUnfinished Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
No! DLD helps others get recognized; it's a big honor! Can't another group be made like this one just for spiffy features??
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Shadowkat678 Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Can't something new be made???
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Wordeea Featured By Owner May 4, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
not cool at all to have removed all the devs that got DLDs in the past ... especially after saying you wouldn't. not cool.
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LiliWrites Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
A lot of this is my fault. I just got too busy with RL to have time for dA. I still don't have time, even for this very important discussion. But I am sorry that I didn't hold up my end of the deal here. I've nothing but respect and love for everyone who has been a part of this project, no matter what happens with the account. :heart:
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DailyLitDeviations Featured By Owner May 1, 2014
I love you Lil, I'm sorry she goes down in flames. I got backed into a corner and we know how that turned out. Thank you for all you have done for DLD! You and me and Elaine and Kaz and some of the other girls rocked some girlpower on this ship before I sank her...after I set her on fire and killed all the passengers...
I should feel bad about that...ok I do. Good times, Good things will be remembered! :heart:
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Sigra-Othdeshegra Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I, for one, do want to thank you for being involved in this ongoing project and for featuring me a few times. This whole thing inspired me to fall back into my writing and continue to embrace what I can bring to the table. (Even if I don't post much of it online.) I plan to continue following with the new group and I am sad to see this end, but I can't say I don't understand. Thank you. Thank you so much for all you and everyone else put into this.
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DailyLitDeviations Featured By Owner May 1, 2014
I'm glad that DLD helped you--that was the  (one of the) point. Thank you for your comments, we all appreciate them. :heart:
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dietcocaine Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014   Writer
I don't really totally understand all of what's happened - nor do I particularly want to hear all the gory details. I said I wasn't going to involve myself in this, but I read this journal, and from what little bit of this mess that I know, I just wanted to offer my two cents worth.

I do not see the sense in closing DLD. At all. I understand (and somewhat agree) with what was said above, about it being stale, about nothing changing or progressing, but I don't think that's a good reason to shut down what has been - just in my opinion - a really great group. It would make more sense, to me at least, to try to fix this stagnation. Stir the waters, so to speak. If the issues addressed above are the real reason for all this drama, then it doesn't seem to me that it's really that huge of a deal. Patch things up, move on, and try to build something better with the foundation that's already here.
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Aerode Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I'm sure I'm not alone in saying that I apologize for any rude behavior  I may have shown. I regret acting out of emotional fuel instead of from a rational standpoint. I appreciate all that you and DLD have done for our community, and I wish you the best. :iconbowplz:
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DailyLitDeviations Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014
I appreciate that but there are no apologies necessary by those just out to save an institution they love. I thank you.
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Aerode Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
:huggle:
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Carmalain7 Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014
Hey Lisa,

First I want to thank you for everything you did for DLD; I was absolutely blessed to have been a part of this group. The growth I experienced both as a writer and an admirer of literature through DLD is immeasurable, and I know for a fact that this group was a big part of my integration into the Lit community here on dA, as well as a big part of the identity I found here and my sense of belonging in something bigger than me.

I also wish to express that as an admin, albeit a minor one, I feel quite slighted by this whole sensationalized event. First off, to use Shane as a strawman pseudo martyr in order to justify your previously planned closing the group agenda when the whole event stemmed from unresolved issues on the creators' end that didn't even really involve him was the most unjust and truly rude thing you could have done and I implore you to take the time to apologize to him, if you haven't already.

Secondly, I can't quite overcome the feeling that I caught a surprise hook in the face because I didn't have my guard up. If there were issues that were bothering you for a few weeks or even months that weren't shared with the greater DLD team as a whole because of real life and such, I'd completely understand, but two plus years? I've been an admin (again, admittedly of a lesser role) for that entire period of time and I heard nothing. silence. I imagine most if not all the others were in the same boat. I don't understand why you didn't trust us with the information on these things and see if we could help in even minor roles to all work together to fix the problems you saw. I mean, yeah Rome wasn't built in a day, but it also would have never been built if only one or two people put the entire responsibility of their backs.

I don't know if there just wasn't enough trust there or what, but I've been an admin for two years and I'm fairly certain I've never has a single word of contact with you so I can't imagine you'd judged my character and, thus, level or desired responsibilities or overall goals with DLD and deemed me unable to help. I mean, maybe I'm totally off the mark there, but that's where my logic is at.

As to the suggestions that DLD moved away from what it was originally intended for, I was fortunate and blessed enough to see real writers grow and integrate into the community through DLD, and even be contacted by some expressing their excitement and appreciation. If operating on love for the community as a whole rather than in response to a perceived sleight from the greater dA DD system was a movement from DLD's original intent, I'm glad it changed and am also glad that it is closing because real people were still positively impacted by that change and that is something I'll always support.

I know that all this razz is probably the last thing you need right now, and I told myself that I'd try to stay out of this for the most part because, at the end of the day, it's not my group nor Shane's or Lili's or Lauren's or even the communities - as demonstrated over the last few days - but yours, and I'm a firm believer that the creators should always have the right to their creations no matter what they choose to do with it. No one can be in your shoes, even with all the information in the world, we can't possibly view it through your lens, and so - for that - I respect any decision you make even if I don't agree with it.

At the end of the day, I'm just happy that you shared DLD with the community for as long as you did and feels so blessed to have been a part of it for the time that I was.

I know it's difficult, but ignore anyone who is attacking your character and know that time heals all things (both for them and for you). At the end of the day, everyone's got to learn to move forward eventually, I'm excited to see what the future brings.

Hope for nothing but the best for your future, let's let the past be past.
All the best,
Alain
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DrippingWords Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014  Student Writer
You win all the awards.
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DailyLitDeviations Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014
Alain,

DLD moved away from my intended purpose for it by not making more to do in the community. I wanted it to be more than an affront to the DD system, a place for featured lit excellence but a mover of mountains in the community too. We ran for a while with the treasured and relentless help of Lili and Elaine. We had contests all the time, a solid running forum, we were participant w/ our group allies and collab'd on projects with others. Good times. That was my vision for DLD.

If y'all must know the last 2 years have been spent in mental health distress due to taking care of my mother among other things. I have chronic PTSD and Bi-Polar disorder and even my "high-functioning" ass could not escape some of my demons during that period. It was all too overwhelming.

You are 100% correct about Shane and I will apologize though I doubt he can forgive me--I was not sensitive to the fact that a note titled "Executive Decision" detailing what he might consider an affront would cause him any pain or anger. I was wrong and I will apologize to him personally as soon as I get the chance.

Your contribution, as all others, is appreciated and respected--as I said it is MY fault that I couldn't step up to the plate a do a revamp with all of your input and assistance. You guys are all wonderful members of this community and it would plain be a shame to see you sit stagnant in a feature account while there are greater things to be conquered out there.

I appreciate your best wishes and thank you for them--it means more than you know. :heart:
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SilverInkblot Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Man, you are just winning all the comments today.
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TheseKrimzonFlames Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014
YES! Thank you, Lisa, for finally understanding. :heart:
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saartha Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
You both are so incredibly passive aggressive. As someone with no vested interest in the outcome of all this, it's pretty hilarious to watch.
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TheseKrimzonFlames Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014
I'm so glad your entertainment has been provided for. After all, was that not the whole idea? :B
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saartha Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Doubt it, but there it is!
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DailyLitDeviations Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014
No games or flames here anymore, I implore all of you--let's all play nice. :pray:
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TheseKrimzonFlames Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014
Another satisfied customer, excellent. :B
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DailyLitDeviations Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014
Just because I didn't say it out loud until now--I have a way of working a bit more slowly--doesn't mean I didn't understand a long time ago. But you're welcome, I guess. I'm happy to have pleased you.
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TheseKrimzonFlames Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014
Stop backsliding! :B It's never been about ME. I'd have never risen as I did for ME. Strength, for the many, not for the one. I still love you, you silly goose, I always will.
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SilverInkblot Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Answering messages was never a part of my job, so I never, EVER touched them. Running contests was never part of my job, so I never suggested any. My training manual was strictly for suggesting, writing, and posting articles. That is what I was hired to do, so that is what I did. As far as I know, every other admin was in the exact same boat. If you wanted us to do more, then you should have ASKED us to do more.
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alapip Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
from where i sat, Lauren, you and the
other admins did a fine job,  i always
wondered if there were any rewards
for your voluntary efforts, and hoped
there were.  anyway, thank you.

:heart: pip
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xlntwtch Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014   Writer
A smaller thank you than Lauren's because I did less :heart:
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alapip Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
i would expect that being under the gun
to meet the daily deadlines were stressful,
Wotcher.  to tell the truth, i was a little
concerned when you volunteered, not
that i actually knew that much about your
health, but that your absences gave hints
that your plate was already too full.

:heart:
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xlntwtch Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014   Writer
thank you, pip.
i did the best i could as long as i could.
still send suggestions hither and yon.

:heart:Wotcher
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jade-pandora Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2014
You have always been amazing in the department of sending suggestions -- there were times (and I think I mentioned this some time back) that every night each midnight when the new DDs popped up, you're name as a suggester would often be there, sometimes more than once!

(sorry I'm getting in on this very late after the facts which I am trying to catch up on, after all, I was away from dA much of the first half of this year, and now have returned after almost two more months of illness, and I hardly recognize the place)

Keep on keepin' on, sweetheart. :heart:
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xlntwtch Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2014   Writer
Thank you. You make me smile and feel better.
I had no idea so many suggestions would be taken for DDs then.
Saw a graph-type thing where successful 'suggesters' were counted and I was on top, with 33 that year.
I know I won't be anywhere close to that number this year. I was ill too, plus just plain worn out.
Maybe next year. :tighthug:
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SilverInkblot Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Thank you :love:
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DailyLitDeviations Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014
Lauren, I made everything clear to the running admins at the time--the info just didn't get passed along. I had/may still detailed formats for instructions as to what is to be done in the account in painful detail so as to avoid mistakes and redundant instruction. You are right--these mentioned duties were never part of your job and albeit done your way no matter what I told you several times I wanted out of those spotlights, I finally gave up and figured you could handle the reins of that job in your own unique way. You've done splendidly. As for asking after it turned over while I was away and absolutely unable to issue instructions and ask for more--it was just too late.
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AyeAye12 Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014  Student Writer
I'm quite a new person to dA, relatively (1 and a half years) so I've never known a DLD that does other things than featuring.

Not defying your reasons for saying the group has stagnated, just that the idea of competitions and other support hasn't really negatively impacted the dA lit., community, IMHHO.
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xlntwtch Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2014   Writer
Agreed.
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DailyLitDeviations Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014
DLD used to do lots of things other than just feature. Thanks for the input.
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jade-pandora Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2014
(btw, who is this I'm addressing my comment to?)

I'm scrolling through all of these comments/ replies/ responses for the first time months after so much hit the fan so please excuse my ignorance to the facts which at this moment I know practically nothing about through my absence on and mostly off dA through 2014. 

In response to this particular thread, I wanted to add that when DLD first started (I remember so well), things were very different, and the original founder I believe left after many issues were under fire due to him or the lack of his input after a while.  But even during those heady early months, the group shot into the firmament like fireworks, and the activity between members and staff was tremendous (and numerous).  Those of us who were being featured in the first year saw high numbers of page hits daily as well as the group's site.  Funny thing was that the group itself wasn't offering a lot of other options at the time, yet it didn't temper the enthusiastic tremors DLD created throughout the lit community.  Yes, very heady (and sometimes controversial) times. 

So through the years the group and its concepts went through major shifts from its first appearance.  Also, fast-forward, I recall when Shane wanted to approach Lili to see if I could be made part of staff along with him in the poetry department, as one in absentia (sp?) because of my health issues even back then.  I thought that was most considerate of him to try.  I had hoped to be a volunteer without the issues, to be more consistent and reliable as one of the staff because I saw how hard everyone was working as the ranks of new staff (Shane being one of them) quickly filled, but I have felt bad ever since I had to decline to try because I knew I wasn't up to it.  Most of my days when I was much more active for the sake of the community were shrinking down to very little.  And now that the group no longer exists, it's even sadder that, according to several comments I saw minutes before composing this comment to you, all of the deviations that had been featured have all been taken down; do I understand that correctly? 

Well, I don't think anything I've said contributes to much in a case like this, but I've been here for almost eleven years and represent history most of all with the lit community (and boy have I witnessed changes).  It just shows how the dynamics of a site such as dA can change with such upheaval when members like me are off dealing with RL.  Every member here is dealing with RL all the time, so it's a microcosm of RL all along in spite of all the good intentions, both in error and  in noble deed. 

Take care and be good to each other and yourself --

Jadey :heart:
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Wordeea Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
i doubt EVERYONE has been mean. that said, i can only imagine being at that end of the stick :hug: i don't know you from a hole in the ground, but i want to say : thank you for this explanation. it was not needed. neither the previous journals and airing of grievances, so to speak (yes i am quoting seinfield).

i get what you are saying - about members having their work featured, inactivity, just going with the motion etc. i think a lot of the lit community, me included, don't get why the leys just could not have been handed over.

that said, no skin of my nose, and none of anyone's else business. a new group has been formed. we'll see where that goes.

as for points - i think it would be fair to a) either return them to their owners or b) just pass them along to DLR

i wish you well.
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DailyLitDeviations Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2014
Thank you.
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